03 mai. 2024
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Laman Express

4.3
718 comentários de clientes
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Cronograma e Horário Laman Express

Hanói - Sapa
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
22:00
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
22:00
Ninh Binh - Hue
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Trem Classe Premium
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Hanói - Da Nang
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
19:50
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
19:50
Trem Classe Premium
19:50
Hanói - Hue
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
19:50
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
19:50
Trem Classe Premium
19:50
Sapa - Hanói
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
21:30
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
21:30
Ninh Binh - Da Nang
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Trem Classe Premium
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Hue - Ninh Binh
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
20:35, 20:54
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
20:35, 20:54
Trem Classe Premium
20:35, 20:54
Hanói - Vietnã
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
19:50
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
19:50
Trem Classe Premium
19:50
Hue - Hanói
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
20:35, 20:54
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
20:35, 20:54
Trem Classe Premium
20:35, 20:54
Ninh Binh - Vietnã
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Trem Classe Premium
21:55, 22:00, 22:05
Da Nang - Hanói
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
17:30, 18:05, 18:10
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
17:30, 18:05, 18:10
Trem Classe Premium
17:30, 18:05, 18:10
Da Nang - Ninh Binh
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
18:05, 18:10
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
18:05, 18:10
Trem Classe Premium
18:05, 18:10
Hue - Da Nang
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
09:15, 09:25, 09:40
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
09:15, 09:25, 09:31, 09:40
Vietnã - Ninh Binh
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
23:40, 23:45, 23:59
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
23:40, 23:45, 23:59
Trem Classe Premium
23:40, 23:45, 23:59
Da Nang - Hue
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
18:05, 18:10
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
18:05, 18:10
Vietnã - Hanói
Trem 1ª Classe para Dormir
23:40, 23:45, 23:59
Trem VIP Para Dormir 4x
23:40, 23:45, 23:59
Trem Classe Premium
23:40, 23:45, 23:59

Sobre a Laman Express

Uma viagem de trem é uma maneira conveniente de explorar o país. Não importa se você está atrás de uma experiência tipicamente antiga com um trem lento de longo curso ou um expresso super moderno de alta velocidade, uma viagem de trem permite que você chegue ao seu destino com estilo e aproveite ao máximo a viagem. A Laman Express é uma das empresas com as quais você pode reservar uma viagem de trem. Antes de confirmar sua reserva, lembre-se de verificar a data de sua viagem, classe, preço e condições de sua tarifa.

Quais são as Estações Principais da Laman Express?

As principais estações abrangidas pelo mapa de rotas da Laman Express incluem:

  • Hanoi
  • Ninh Binh
  • Sapa Lao Cai Sapa Lao Cai
  • Hue
  • Da Nang
  • Dong Hoi

Quais são as Rotas Mais Populares da Laman Express?

Aqui estão algumas das rotas oferecidas pela Laman Express com maior popularidade junto aos viajantes:

Quais são as Classes e Preços de Trem da Laman Express?

Dependendo da duração de sua viagem e de suas preferências, você pode escolher uma passagem de primeira ou segunda classe para uma viagem de noite ou optar por um assento duro ou macio, se disponível. Observe que a escolha das classes de passagem depende tanto da rota quanto da duração de sua viagem. Em geral, seu trem pode ter beliches de primeira classe, mas não será possível reservar uma se você estiver fazendo apenas um trecho curto de duas horas. De maneira geral, as beliches de segunda classe são uma boa escolha para viagens mais longas, e com assentos macios se sua viagem de trem durar menos de 4-5 horas.

Prós e Contras das Viagens de Trem

Prós das Viagens de Trem

  • O melhor de viajar de trem é que não tem engarrafamentos de trânsito. Mesmo em horários de pico, fins de semana longos ou durante a alta estação.
  • Tem um processo de reserva online fácil - você não precisa ir à estação ferroviária, o que era o caso em muitos lugares não faz muito tempo!
  • Os preços das passagens de trem são geralmente mais acessíveis em comparação com as passagens aéreas, mas para certos destinos e viagens o tempo total de viagem pode ser quase o mesmo.
  • Embora as viagens de trem sejam obviamente mais lentas do que as viagens aéreas, as estações ferroviárias estão frequentemente localizadas no centro da cidade, permitindo economizar tempo para chegar e sair, enquanto os aeroportos estão quase sempre muito distantes da cidade.
  • Viajar de noite permite economizar em um quarto de hotel e dormir bem ao mesmo tempo - ao contrário de um ônibus da noite, onde até mesmo a classe para dormir é um enorme compromisso.
  • Em certas rotas, o serviço de luxo está disponível.

Contras das Viagens de Trem

  • Para viagens mais longas, uma viagem de trem é definitivamente mais demorada do que as viagens aéreas.
  • Os trens viajam dentro do horário marcado, mas ficar fora do horário não é inédito para viagens de trem - e atrasos podem ser enormes, portanto, se você estiver planejando uma conexão para seu voo, verifique cuidadosamente a hora em que seu trem chega à estação e pense duas vezes.
  • Às vezes, a limpeza é um problema com as passagens de segunda e terceira classe, e com os banheiros também.
  • Se seu trem faz muitas paradas, às vezes é difícil saber quando descer, pois as paradas nem sempre são claramente anunciadas ou marcadas, com exceção de uma tela eletrônica.
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Estações da Laman Express

Comentários Sobre a Companhia Laman Express

4.5
718 comentários de clientes
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4
Trem #SE20 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 18 de mar. de 2024
One of the better train companies here. While it's a stretch to call this VIP, I did like the services provided. The views were incredible too. The beds were firm but it's expected. The toilet and washroom were nicer than the other train we took. We were given a light breakfast pack and some overnight drinks, which is welcomed. Though, they weren't enough for the 17 hour journey so we got some pot noodles and Bahn Mis before we got on the train and we used them to supplement the food we were given. The boiling water tap was very good and clean too, which helped get the noodles good too. The train can be loud and rickety so best to have ear plugs. For the money though, I'd choose a cabin bus instead for a more comfortable journey. The views are just as nice on the buses.
M
3
Trem #SE20 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 12 de mar. de 2024
Our cabin had problems with the door. At some point we got locked inside and the stuff couldn't get us out for almost 1 hour. We were scared to death because no one was talking english and we didn't know what was happening and if they would solve the problem. The beds were mid comfortable and there was little to almost no place inside the cabin. I can not imagine 4 people traveling in 1 cabin. Luckly there were only the 2 of us.
D
2
Trem #SP3 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 28 de fev. de 2024
They sell more VIP cabins than they have! We were told on the spot that there's a malfunction in one of the cabins and they had to move us to a different car. We and other 3 families ended up in a car of a different standard that the photos promised. We had our private cabin surrounded by locals that smoked cigarettes all the time, acted very loud till 2AM. The cabin looked like arranged quickly to match the VIP standard. I made it to the destination safe and in clean conditions but the overall experience felt overpriced. I would not recommend Laman.
A
5
Trem #SE20 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 6 de jan. de 2024
We had two beds in a nice and clean 4-Person-Cabin. The toilets were also clean. Thank you!!
C
4
Trem #SP3 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 4 de jan. de 2024
The beds were very hard and the door didn’t close tightly. Everything else was very good
T
5
Trem #SE20 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 9 de dez. de 2023
Easy and stress free. Bus was on time, clean and reliable.
O
4
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 3 de nov. de 2023
Lit confortable avec une couverture et un coussin. Place pour mettre les bagages sous les lit et dessus. Quelques petits trucs à grignoter et à boire disponible gratuitement dans la couchette. Une dame passe dans les couloirs pour vendre à manger et à boire à des prix corrects. Par contre pas mal de bruits (le train fait du bruit et des des branches d'arbre tapent dans le train durant le trajet). Arrivée et départ à l'heure (à ~15 minutes près). Et bien se couvrir car la climatisation est forte et pas possible de la régler.
P
3
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 2 de nov. de 2023
Service is good, sheets are clean, but in the end it is just another old nighttrain waggon, better than Indian, worse than Europe, similar to Russian. So don‘t expect miracles from Laman. The „pre-travel checkin“ is unnecessary, it just makes you stay 45min at the lobby. But you get free water and are guided to the train. :)
S
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 28 de out. de 2023
Overall great experience! Very clean 4 berth cabin compared to the Vietnam railways cabin we had been in previously. Linen was actually clean and they even provided refreshments free of charge. The mattress is a little firm but nothing worse than we expected and a bit of noise from the train moving but would recommend bringing ear plugs and an eye mask.
G
4
Trem #SЕ19 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 24 de out. de 2023
We had a very good trip with Laman express. On our beds was a welcome-letter and we got snacks, breakfast and drinks for free. The bathroom on the train was really clean all the time. Trainride was very bumpy, but you got used to that. We would absolutely like to go with Laman Express again.
A
5
Trem #SE19 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 22 de out. de 2023
Great trip! Exchanging the voucher for tickets was very easy. Staff were helpful. Train carriage was clean, beds were clean, toilets were pretty good for a train. We even got some snacks, water, ... overall a great experience!
B
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 13 de out. de 2023
Sleeper train Hanoi to Sapa, check in at Mango hotel was easy. Very friendly and attentive Laman staff with great English, she made sure everything was taken care of and checked up on us even after boarding the train. Train itself was very clean with water and snacks provided and some nice attention to details. Sleep was fine, even as a tall person. Overall 5/5 stars and would recommend.
S
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 13 de out. de 2023
GREAT experience!! One of the most comfortable trip of my life. Service was great. Everything was very clean
C
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 3 de out. de 2023
Service was excellent, personnel so kind and helpful. Transport efficient and train beds are comfortable
M
3
Trem #SE20 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 28 de set. de 2023
In der Beschreibung stand, dass wir in das Schlafabteil eingewiesen werden, was aber nicht der Fall war.
S
5
Trem #SP4 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 28 de set. de 2023
Clean, got into Hanoi bang on time, reasonably comfortable. Crew came round with a cart selling snacks in the evening and coffee in the morning.
R
5
Trem #SE19 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 13 de set. de 2023
first-class compartment is overpriced. For more than 130$ you have very poor breakfast and hot soft drinks and beer (that should be cold actually), no toiletries, no towel, even no trainman in our coach. AC works well. Toilet is clear. Wifi is promised but doesn't work.
L
4
Trem #SE20 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 12 de set. de 2023
Great experience to do once for me. Great to do long distance and able to lye down. Cabin and toilet clean. Food service great. Bed a little too firm. I found it very expensive...but did go first class.
T
4
Trem #SЕ19 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 11 de set. de 2023
Dit was voor ons de eerste keer dat wij gebruik maakte van de nachttrein. Wij hadden voor de 2 bedden variant gekozen. De reis ging van Ninh Binh naar Hué. Onze algemene ervaring was goed. De bedden waren ruim genoeg om een man van 190 cm languit te kunnen laten liggen. Er waren diverse snacks aan boord, waarvan we gretig gebruik hebben gemaakt. Er is een gezamenlijke wastafel en wc aan boord die schoon waren en voorzien van toiletpapier. Het enigste waarbij wij minder tevreden zijn is het boarding proces. Na het boeken kregen wij een mail waarin wij werden verzocht om 45 minuten voor vertrek ons te melden bij de tourist information office. Tot 10 minuten voor vertrek hebben wij niks van geen enkele medewerker iets vernomen. Net voor vertrek kwam een medewerker van het treinstation in gebrekkig Engels ons instrueren om naar het perron te lopen. Zelfs op het perron wisten we niet wat de bedoeling was. In de trein zelf was een medewerker aanwezig die ons naar de juiste cabine bracht.
M
4
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 11 de set. de 2023
The room is spacy for 4 berth, glad to have compliment snacks and drinks, toilet is clean, washing place is good for refresh and bed is nice and comfortable. Just the train is too noisy for me to keep sleeping, and a bit shaky as I am easily get carsick.
H
5
Trem #SE19 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 5 de set. de 2023
Everything was perfect! In time departure and arrival, clean bathroom, luxurious car with snacks. Would highly recommend this and spending a few bucks more was the right call for me personally. Slept like a baby. Bring ear protection to ensure good sleep, but this is to be expected on a train.
M
5
Trem #SE20 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 27 de ago. de 2023
This trip was really amazing. We had two VIP-2-berth cabins. The vehicle was very clean, the cabin itself as well as the washbasin and the toilet. The train was the entire trip on time. There were also snacks and drinks and a breakfast box, which was really good. Overall an amazing night-traintrip!
J
4
Trem #SE19 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 27 de ago. de 2023
All was very good but there was no wi-fi even though it's supposed to be provided.
J
5
Trem #SE20 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 20 de ago. de 2023
Really nice train. The rooms are clean. The beds are pretty big and the toilets are clean aswell
V
4
Trem #SЕ19 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 17 de jul. de 2023
The beds where clean, we had good and warm enough blankets and a perfekt sized pillow. In our opinion it was good that the train had smooth dampers, which despite the wobbling of the train made it possible for us to sleep. We had a small cake a banana and milk as breakfast, got 1 small bottle of water and 1 Coke only the hot water for tea or coffee was missing. Toilets we're OK.
K
2
Trem #SP4 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 23 de jun. de 2023
Smoking from other carriages affecting our carriage. Hard to breathe. Beds not very comfortable compared to other operators
S
4
Trem #SP3 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 29 de mai. de 2023
Everything was great until an hour before arriving in Sapa we have the speaker in our berth start singing SUPER loud and making announcements. When we told one of the staff members she pointed at the switch on the wall to turn it off. They could have told us while boarding it could have been useful, we had to endure 20 minutes of very loud singing. Otherwise, the trip was great, on time and the train is comfortable enough we slept almost the whole journey.
B
3
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 14 de mai. de 2023
The train is an effective way of transportation if you need to get from point A to point B on time. The room is comfortable and spacious, with enough for two large suitcases and a smaller one beneath the bed. The travel itself was unpleasant; it seemed as if someone was shaking you in bed all night.
A
5
Trem #SE19 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 7 de mai. de 2023
Very bad service…I booked a 1st class sleeper train to Hue, two days later I got an email to tell me the operator had no tickets left and I should rebook another option. So I replied asking if I could get a 2nd class train instead and refund the difference. They took so long to reply that I ended up booking a flight instead . A few minutes after I booked the flight I got an email to say they were going to book the 2nd class tickets for me, so I emailed them straight back to say please can el as the tickets were not needed anymore, but they booked them anyway, and then refused to offer me a refund for a train would not be getting. Overall very inflexible and poor service. Would not recommend
J
4
Trem #SE19 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 27 de abr. de 2023
Beds were good . We had nice young couple that were in our room.
T
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 25 de abr. de 2023
Very noisy train. Very stupid passenger in the cabin. They wanted to sleep all day long
C
2
Trem #SP4 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 21 de abr. de 2023
Bed was hard as a rock. The free water, soda and beer was hot and they would not exchange them with some cold. You could buy new cold one?!
L
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 24 de mar. de 2023
Très inconfortable . J'ai réservé un siège dans un véhicule vip 9 personnes. Le vehicule était pour 6 personnes. La conduite dangereuse et non sécuritaire. Je vais faire bloquer la transaction sur ma carte de crédit.
J
3
Trem #SP4 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 8 de mar. de 2023
The Cabin was comfortable, bathrooms tidy (except for the missing toiletpaper), mattresses a little too hard, but up until the end we Were quite happy with the trip. But 15 Minutes before arriving there was extremely loud music (Hanoi hymn) that didn‘t stop until we arrived. It was unbearable really.
E
3
Trem #SЕ1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 20 de fev. de 2023
For the price was only average. Compartment was comfortable however door did not stay closed. The toilets were very bad.
Y
4
Trem #SЕ1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 26 de dez. de 2022
Better than expected. Ride was clean and toilet was bearable. The experience was enjoyable for the kids, and allowed quality time to be spent in conversations.
J
5
Trem #SP4 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 15 de dez. de 2022
Our trip back from Sapa to Hanoi with Laman was wonderful. Our guide, Tuan, from Terminus Restaurant was hospitable and friendly. The cabin and beds were clean, and comfortable. Spacious to accommodate 5 luggages and 4 backpacks. Our cabin came with complimentary drinks and snacks. Overall, the difference between Laman and the other cabin companies would be the personal guide directly to your cabin and the private check in location.
J
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 13 de dez. de 2022
The service was great from the time we checked in to the time we boarded the train. We booked with Laman for the first time and we were blown away by the private check in area at the hotel, where you can peacefully wait to board in their lounge area. And when it came time to board the train, Laman provided an escort to bring you directly to the correct train and boarding room. We were provided with water, sofa and snacks complimentary of Laman. The room and beds felt clean, however their washroom is a little small, but nothing worth complaining. We have booked our returning trip from Sapa to Hanoi with Laman as well!
V
2
Trem #SE1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 28 de nov. de 2022
Not a luxury experience, the AC was broken so VERY hot night, unable to sleep, the walls are dirty, the window was leaking so one of the beds was soaked in the first hour of the trip!
T
5
Trem #SЕ1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 9 de nov. de 2022
Very clean and comfortable, beautiful view, very friendly service, good food
C
5
Trem #SP3 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 8 de nov. de 2022
Everything was great, apparently this was one of the most comfy night train rides we've ever had. Cabin was very clean, free snacks and drinks were provided and the staff was friendly. Train was also very much on time. Toilet was ok and not as dirty as we expected after reading some reviews. Even after spending the night on the train we felt quite relaxed in the morning. Would highly recommend!
S
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 5 de nov. de 2022
clean toilet. comfortable beds. a good choice of cabin. will choose Laman Express again when we are back
A
4
Trem #SE1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 27 de out. de 2022
Checked in at Mango Hotel and waited in the hotel. Taken straight through to the train and shown to our cabin. 4 birth cabins, mixed sex. Beds quite comfortable. USB charging point by head of bead. Easy to sleep - very quiet. Croissant, banana and milk in cabin for breakfast and tea and coffee sachets. Communal hot water in the Isle. Staff very helpful. Only downside is the toilets.
S
2
Trem #SE1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 24 de out. de 2022
The beds were really hard and we had lots of cockroaches in our cabin. Also we couldn't regulate the aircon and I never saw a disgusting train toilet like the one on our train.
C
4
Trem #SP4 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 23 de out. de 2022
We had a great trip, but there was no toilet paper in every toilet and no soap.
D
5
Trem #SЕ1 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 22 de out. de 2022
Buena opción para viajar cómodo y poder dormir. Volveríamos a repetir. También nos dejaron un snack para que pudiésemos desayunar, ya que fueron 11 horas de viajes. Lo único a corregir es un poco de más limpieza, de resto todo perfecto.
M
4
Trem #SЕ1 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 22 de out. de 2022
Easy check in, taken to the train by a guide. Light refreshments supplied. Very rocky, bumpy at times. Plenty of space to store luggage, charging points for phones. Avoid toilet if you can and take toilet roll with you. Toilet floor wet. Sink in carriageway for face wash and teeth brushing, no privacy though. Guard let's you know when you need to get off, although a train time table and arrival times are posted inside the train.
T
5
Trem #SP3 VIP Para Dormir 4x, Laman Express, 16 de out. de 2022
Service was great - lady behind the counter spoke English very well, she gave us water and we waited in hotel lounge. Than she escorted us to our train and our train cabin. We shared a cabin with two other travelers. Beds and cabin was clean except top shelves were a bit dusty. In a train was small snack, coke, water and wet tissues for everyone. AC could be stronger (top beds were little bit hot). Ride with a train was a little bit bumpy and noisy but we counted on it… we would appreciate earplugs in a service packet. Train arrived on time.
B
5
Trem #SE1 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 14 de out. de 2022
We booked a private (2 person) cabin online. It was available to book and did the payment etc. only to hear a day later that this cabin actually wasn't available. It was a lot of money already paid. Then the contact center told us we could book a 4-person cabin for the two of us for an additional +/- €50 (ehm, excuse me!? We need to pay extra for your mistake? And not a small amount either.. ). We decided not to do this and to just share the cabin with two others. We left from Ninh Binh but our tickets had the departure time from Hanoi on it, so this was not correct either. On the night itself we entered the train, the toilet(s) were disgusting and the staff was smoking inside the train. The cabin was fine - clean and quite new. There were two other beds which were reserved but not occupied yet. After a while the cabin attendent/conductor came by to check our tickets. He closed the door and told us we could have the whole cabin for ourselves for +/- €25 extra, we had to pay him in cash and he would make sure nobody came in... It was all very strange and dodgy since there were welcome papers with guest names on the other two beds, but perhaps those people cancelled or missed their train. Since we really wanted the cabin for ourselves we decided to pay him the amount. However, I believe we would have had the cabin to ourselves anyway, and this cabin attendent just wanted to make money. He took advantage of the situation since we were so tired (it was the middle of the night). The cabin and train were fine, but we felt like we were scammed by this cabin attendent which left us with an uneasy feeling, and the booking process with 12 Go Asia was such a hassle as well. I would appreciate a compensation and would also recommend others to book directly at the train station and not with a partner online.
J
5
Trem #SЕ1 1ª Classe para Dormir, Laman Express, 13 de out. de 2022
Paid for a VIP cabin and only got a deluxe due to an overbooking . Mattress was around 5 times thinner then the VIP. Awaiting refund